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Naming nearly every unit wrong is just making a mess of things even if what you're calculating had a meaningful value.

Meteor Lake is terrible

He needs to run Powercfg.exe /SleepStudy on each laptop, I'll bet his x86 are either doing more, or entering hibernate at a reasonable depletion rather than a few percent "Modern standby" must have hibernate enabled to guard against critical battery level

While it's not technically correct to say "watts per hour," using the relationship between watts (power) and watt-hours (energy) will still lead you to the correct answer when calculating how long a battery will last. When you calculate battery life, you're essentially using the correct relationship: Battery Life (hours) = Battery Capacity (Wh) Power Consumption (W) Battery Life (hours)= Power Consumption (W) Battery Capacity (Wh)

@@mechanicalmonk2020 watt hours per hour.... Also known as watts... Lol

Phawx did misstate the units several times, which is just needlessly confusing. Also, one watt for standby power is stupidly high in the first place; pretty much all that should be active is memory self-refresh. There's no good reason for a laptop to have worse standby time than a cellphone; we're talking less tasks and far bigger batteries. Modern cell phones are doing rather badly too.

His last video was literally showing steamdeck being 3 times faster than this arm chip at doom eternal at same power usage.

Batteries degrade with charge cycles, if that's yours and doesn't need to go back, you should never run that off wall when you have a wall, never ever, that battery is a big ticket replacing

@@hamzashaikh9310 More performance at the same power draw Almost nobody needs standby more than a day, this vid looks an advertisement rather than important info. He needs to run Powercfg.exe /SleepStudy on each box, I'm betting his Qualcomm is not doing as much backwound during modern standby, or it's entering hibernate soon after lid is closed

@@MrPerrisC Far from the only thing that degrade batteries. Keeping a battery at 100% or empty for prolongued periods is actually worse for the battery than healthy cycles (= cycles that keep it away from maximum and minimum voltage)

@@hamzashaikh9310 and I literally said in a generation or two, I am damned well aware of how anemic the integrated graphics are on this chip. No one is claiming the current generation of snapdragon x chips elite or otherwise have any real gaming grunt. And during active use I don’t expect it to last much longer than anything else when gaming even with a theoretical new generation one being able to match or beat whatever high end integrated graphics AMD cooks up in the future. But if we can keep similar standby power draw as what these are showing now, then it would be a contender. As it stands now even with all the improvements, if I put my steam deck in standby, and forget to go back to it to continue playing or at least save and quit and shut down, I’m looking at a dead or near dead steam deck the next time I go to use it. And this is on my OLED deck that has otherwise fantastic battery life by any other metric. So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make?

If you want to talk about energy in terms of a simple unit, that unit is Joule. Power can then be measured in e.g. J/s. People in physics and biology tend to use units like this. But people dealing with electricity don't generally do this. Instead, we use watts for power and watt hours for energy, because power in watts is a simple multiplication of voltage by current.

You're both wrong

​@@farstranger69 neither of them are wrong. But Wh is a more useful unit than Joule for electronics

It's all a matter of definition. We all know what he means, and no one is wrong here. Watts per hour makes sense and is no different to watt hours (unless you are a machine incapable of extrapolation , then you might get confused).

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My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

@@HDRPC lunar lake will be great. But my laptop has a 10300H, and it really does not lose a lot of power during hibernation. Luckily windows modern standby isnt available for it because that sounds horrible tbh

it was a big deal with hard drives thanks to reactiin time, power consumption and speed in general, now with nvme is just nothing basically

Atleast chinese phones do this very well. Modes for benchmarks, modes for specific games, modes for youtube, calls etc.

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

Not at all. My laptop has same issue, its always dead after 1 or 2 days of sleep

@@lasue7244 it could be issue for your laptop. But not for everyone

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

😂😂😂😂

I own one (Pro 11) and it's super nice to use. Gaming is meh, but it's not for gaming.

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

@@HDRPC Are you a bot? Every reply it's the same, with most comments.

Ok bot

I dont even know of he Is a bot. He Just spamming tho.

Intel shill

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

The average laptop is up there tho. The thging about these arm chips is that they are definitely cheaper to produce. And so we will see cheaper options that actually make sense, of course windows is to blame... If we need arm to have usable laptops something is wrong.

​@@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861Why do you think so?

@@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861 If they are cheaper then why would qualcomm charge us higher prices compared to relative performant x86 laptops?

for me its's slightly

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

@@HDRPC thank you for your input, but I asked about AMD because everyone keeps saying "AMD is great for efficiency" yet there's not a lot of data on specifically the standby state. Phawx here compared best case vs worst case. I'd love to know what else sits in the middle

that's not entirely true, there are plenty cases where on Android' Google Play services drain the battery like a motha'fucker

@@zMeul My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

@@HDRPC you are aware the H series Intels are the performance segment and not the power efficient segment ? That would be a U series chip. Anyway the main problem with Intel laptops is the quality of implementation in a lot of them. Just recently I have seen a Linux kernel patch for Intel laptops that do not advertise their power capabilities properly (meaning they do not report boost states etc to the OS in the standard way they should). These early ARM things are hand picked models and probably heavily monitored by Qualcom ... let's wait for the cheap devices and how those will perform ...

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

since ryzen, and it istill on the oven, and the heat is increasing, no one to open the oven, it is burning basically now

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

@@HDRPC good to know that with Meteor Lake the situation is better. I know LNL will be much better then what he showed in this video, and i hope Strix will be better too, because i need x86 to work and it seems that some program crash, others runs slowly because they can't use hardware acceleration, while others don't run at all trough emulation with X Elite. I know there are other people in the same situatio, and that's why i hope Strix and LNL will perform much better then the laptop tested in the video.

@@matthewsykes2646 fact is X Elite is dead or arrival

@@HDRPC yes, it's kinda dead on arrival but it still showed that,this time, Microsoft and developers are serious about Windows on Arm. The good part of this story is that if you need a very energy efficient laptop for office work or some light task you have more option with X Elite designs laptops, but if you want, or need, the best performance for video editing, gaming, 3D or other things you have a HUGE amount of choice with Meteor Lake and Hawk Point and, starting from the next month with Strix Point first and then in Spetember with LNL, there will be even more choices

Drivers will improve

have u seen how worse it is in gaming, i dont think we need it as of now..... for work its ok isnt the problem is more likely difference in architecture and translation layer? games dev need to create native apps

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

​@@LuminousSpaceit is dead on arrival?

@@LuminousSpace it out performs the steam deck even running under emulation. It’s driver support and consistency that’s the issue. Spider-Man miles morales can run at 50-70fps 768p without fsr. And it comes with a built in ai upscaler using the npu. Could be good in a windows handheld once drivers get sorted out

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

Legion Snapdragon???

@@Xevos701 🤣🤣

@@Xevos701 actually the Lenovo yoga, my bad (legion was my last laptop). Still a snap dragon x model tho. Really nice so far

@@danielcable842 have you tried gaming? How they work without Nvidia or AMD drivers.

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

My Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Pro 62.1Wh dropped 2% in 8 hours of sleep. Windows Balanced mode. It has IntelCoreUltra 5 125H, it is a Chiplet architecture with 6nm/5nm nodes. Lunar Lake is coming with Enhanced sleep states. MoP and Memory Side Cache.

<3 Craft Computing is amazing! Hope to see him again